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LifeInfusion · Aug 29, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Thinking of changing Necromancer's secondary for a self healing skill with about 9 to 10 in the attribute. What would be the best self-heal as a secondary profession?

This is what I'm think so far:
Monks' Orison of Healing (5 energy, 1 cast, 2 recharge) relatively low heal
Monks' Heal Party (15 energy , 2 cast, 0 recharge) relatively low, but heals everyone in party
Monks' Healing Touch <-- totally not viable for nonmonk
Monks' Heal Area (10 energy, 1 cast, 5 recharge) relatively high heal for the cost but heals enemies also

Mesmers' Ether Feast (5 energy, 2 cast, 8 recharge)

Warriors' Healing Signet (0 energy, 2 cast, 4 recharge) -40 Armor while using

Rangers' Troll Unguent (5 energy, 3 cast, 10 recharge) a bad idea since it heals only degen effectively.

Lasareth · Aug 29, 2005, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Necro main has a really good variety of healing spells, although most come with the caveat (or blessing) of an additional effect. If you're death necro, taste of death is really nice spell, but needs a corpse. Blood magic has a lot of damage dealing AND healing spells... What kind of style do you use?

The main issue is energy efficiency... it's not worth healing the entire pt for 15 energy if only you need it, and if you could have used a number of low cost necro skills in the meantime

Mandy Memory · Aug 29, 2005, 09:28 PM // 21:28

i would say troll ungent, because thats around 200 points of healing over 10 seconds....

but still...blood magic is the best self heal

Eonwe · Aug 29, 2005, 10:25 PM // 22:25

The only viable *healing* spells to use on any type of monk secondary would be Heal Area / Heal Other / Infuse Health / Healing Seed. So, to answer your question, Heal Area.

Mhydrian · Aug 29, 2005, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Heal Sig gets my vote, costs no mana and heals alot for a 2 seconds cast. I prefer heal sig over troll unguent anyday.

Divine Elemental · Aug 29, 2005, 10:50 PM // 22:50

Heal area for pvp
sig for pve
hands down

Morganas · Aug 30, 2005, 12:11 AM // 00:11

You're a necro primary and you haven't figured out how necros self heal yet?!

Grammar · Aug 30, 2005, 12:31 AM // 00:31

What about Healing Breeze?
It's pretty much the same thing as Troll Unguent, only with a recast time of only 2 (costs 10 energy instead of 5 though).
I'm a fan of Troll Unguent and Healing Breeze for some reason. I like to keep the those pips rolling non-stop.

But seeing as how you're a Necro, you may already be using a regen healing spell (like Life Syphon), so maybe you should consider complemeting that with a spike healing spell. Heal Other would be a good choice.

Eonwe · Aug 30, 2005, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Heal Other unfortunately is not a self-heal. Heal "Other" .

Grammar · Aug 30, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47

Hmmn, I thought Heal Other could be cast on yourself (like OoH).
Maybe not, I don't remember.

Age · Aug 30, 2005, 12:54 AM // 00:54

The best Monk self heal is healing breeze hand down but for Necro Primary I always thought it would be blood renewal or as one mentioned life siphion.I always use my primary as a self heal I see a lot of War/Monks useing breeze when there is their signet which is what I use with my Warrior.

btw don't use heal area unless it is for your minions or horrors personally i don't like any of them if you die they turn on your party.

LifeInfusion · Aug 30, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Morganas

You're a necro primary and you haven't figured out how necros self heal yet?!

I'm blood. But I'm switching to curses. I have every skill unlocked on the necro skill line and secondary skillset. That's why i am swapping secondaries.

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Originally Posted by Age

The best Monk self heal is healing breeze hand down

btw don't use heal area unless it is for your minions or horrors personally i don't like any of them if you die they turn on your party.

Healing breeze doesn't help. Why? Because it only helps against degen, not actual Damage. At level 12 healing prayers it heals only 8 regen, or 16 hp a second.

If you are a necro, you usually don't stand near the enemy. And I won't use minions because I am going curses.

Lasareth · Aug 30, 2005, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Why not take the extra attributes you plan to put into healing yourself and just put them into blood...

Age · Aug 30, 2005, 04:06 AM // 04:06

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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

I'm blood. But I'm switching to curses. I have every skill unlocked on the necro skill line and secondary skillset. That's why i am swapping secondaries.

Healing breeze doesn't help. Why? Because it only helps against degen, not actual Damage. At level 12 healing prayers it heals only 8 regen, or 16 hp a second.

If you are a necro, you usually don't stand near the enemy. And I won't use minions because I am going curses.

I was referring to Monk primaries with Defivie Favour it is tripled.

blane · Aug 30, 2005, 04:30 AM // 04:30

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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

I'm blood. But I'm switching to curses. I have every skill unlocked on the necro skill line and secondary skillset. That's why i am swapping secondaries.

Healing breeze doesn't help. Why? Because it only helps against degen, not actual Damage. At level 12 healing prayers it heals only 8 regen, or 16 hp a second.

If you are a necro, you usually don't stand near the enemy. And I won't use minions because I am going curses.

Necro's curse line doesn't have many healing skills other than Parasitic Bond. So you should accompany it with blood or death. I'm a blood+curse necro. I use Life Siphon, Vampiric Gaze and Well of power{E} for pve and Life Transfer{E},Vampiric Gaze and Strip Enchantment for pvp. My favourite skill is Vampiric Gaze because it heal fast and deal damage at the same time.
For death necros, Consume Corpse and Taste of Death are very good healing.

UltimaXtreme · Aug 30, 2005, 05:35 AM // 05:35

for monk- healing touch
for necro- probably vampiric gaze, taste of death needs minions and consume corpse needs a corpse to use.

Mr Jazzy · Aug 30, 2005, 05:36 AM // 05:36

healing touch

nemenem · Aug 30, 2005, 06:11 AM // 06:11

Why not go for a good monk protection spell instead? If you suddenly get whailed on by the other team, a good protection spell will give your monks time to get to you. Your job is not to heal yourself, thats what monks are there for. You will be able to act quicker than a monk usually, so whack a protection prayer on yourself and u are cool till the monks get to you.

Yukito Kunisaki · Aug 30, 2005, 06:24 AM // 06:24

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Originally Posted by Mr Jazzy

healing touch

I second that vote... Healing Touch...

Morganas · Aug 30, 2005, 07:16 AM // 07:16

He's asking about heals for necro primaries, so healing touch is out of the question.

For necros primaries, you really shouldn't be leaving your primary for self heals.

Aug 29, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21	#1
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	Best self-heal? Thinking of changing Necromancer's secondary for a self healing skill with about 9 to 10 in the attribute. What would be the best self-heal as a secondary profession? This is what I'm think so far: Monks' Orison of Healing (5 energy, 1 cast, 2 recharge) relatively low heal Monks' Heal Party (15 energy , 2 cast, 0 recharge) relatively low, but heals everyone in party Monks' Healing Touch <-- totally not viable for nonmonk Monks' Heal Area (10 energy, 1 cast, 5 recharge) relatively high heal for the cost but heals enemies also Mesmers' Ether Feast (5 energy, 2 cast, 8 recharge) Warriors' Healing Signet (0 energy, 2 cast, 4 recharge) -40 Armor while using Rangers' Troll Unguent (5 energy, 3 cast, 10 recharge) a bad idea since it heals only degen effectively.

Aug 30, 2005, 12:54 AM // 00:54	#11
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	The best Monk self heal is healing breeze hand down but for Necro Primary I always thought it would be blood renewal or as one mentioned life siphion.I always use my primary as a self heal I see a lot of War/Monks useing breeze when there is their signet which is what I use with my Warrior. btw don't use heal area unless it is for your minions or horrors personally i don't like any of them if you die they turn on your party. Last edited by Age; Aug 30, 2005 at 12:57 AM // 00:57..

Aug 29, 2005, 09:27 PM // 21:27	#2
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	Necro main has a really good variety of healing spells, although most come with the caveat (or blessing) of an additional effect. If you're death necro, taste of death is really nice spell, but needs a corpse. Blood magic has a lot of damage dealing AND healing spells... What kind of style do you use? The main issue is energy efficiency... it's not worth healing the entire pt for 15 energy if only you need it, and if you could have used a number of low cost necro skills in the meantime

Aug 29, 2005, 09:28 PM // 21:28	#3
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	i would say troll ungent, because thats around 200 points of healing over 10 seconds.... but still...blood magic is the best self heal

Aug 29, 2005, 10:25 PM // 22:25	#4
Eonwe Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Guild: Idiot Savants	The only viable healing spells to use on any type of monk secondary would be Heal Area / Heal Other / Infuse Health / Healing Seed. So, to answer your question, Heal Area.

Aug 29, 2005, 10:40 PM // 22:40	#5
Mhydrian Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: R/Me	Heal Sig gets my vote, costs no mana and heals alot for a 2 seconds cast. I prefer heal sig over troll unguent anyday.

Aug 29, 2005, 10:50 PM // 22:50	#6
Divine Elemental Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Near Your House Guild: I Used To Own [ IUTO ]	Heal area for pvp sig for pve hands down

Aug 30, 2005, 12:11 AM // 00:11	#7
Morganas Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005	You're a necro primary and you haven't figured out how necros self heal yet?!

Aug 30, 2005, 12:31 AM // 00:31	#8
Grammar Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005	What about Healing Breeze? It's pretty much the same thing as Troll Unguent, only with a recast time of only 2 (costs 10 energy instead of 5 though). I'm a fan of Troll Unguent and Healing Breeze for some reason. I like to keep the those pips rolling non-stop. But seeing as how you're a Necro, you may already be using a regen healing spell (like Life Syphon), so maybe you should consider complemeting that with a spike healing spell. Heal Other would be a good choice.

Aug 30, 2005, 12:37 AM // 00:37	#9
Eonwe Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Guild: Idiot Savants	Heal Other unfortunately is not a self-heal. Heal "Other" .

Aug 30, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47	#10
Grammar Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005	Hmmn, I thought Heal Other could be cast on yourself (like OoH). Maybe not, I don't remember.

Aug 30, 2005, 01:40 AM // 01:40	#13
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	Why not take the extra attributes you plan to put into healing yourself and just put them into blood...

Aug 30, 2005, 05:35 AM // 05:35	#16
UltimaXtreme Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005	for monk- healing touch for necro- probably vampiric gaze, taste of death needs minions and consume corpse needs a corpse to use.

Aug 30, 2005, 05:36 AM // 05:36	#17
Mr Jazzy Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cali Guild: Mending For The [win] Profession: W/A	healing touch

Aug 30, 2005, 06:11 AM // 06:11	#18
nemenem Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Guilding Guilders Guild Profession: Mo/E	Why not go for a good monk protection spell instead? If you suddenly get whailed on by the other team, a good protection spell will give your monks time to get to you. Your job is not to heal yourself, thats what monks are there for. You will be able to act quicker than a monk usually, so whack a protection prayer on yourself and u are cool till the monks get to you.

Aug 30, 2005, 07:16 AM // 07:16	#20
Morganas Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005	He's asking about heals for necro primaries, so healing touch is out of the question. For necros primaries, you really shouldn't be leaving your primary for self heals.